Talk:Aspir II

Could someone who has this explain the bit to me that makes it worth having? On anything with mp, I was already able to drain enough to keep myself going just fine... This still only works on things that have mp, right? And an 8 second cast time? Really? That's almost half the casting time of Ancient Magic. Seriously, someone tell me why I should bother spending 80k on this. (Note- I am quite an enthusiast for casting on dark knight, really. This just doesn't seem like it brings anything new to the table, and looks a lot worse than aspir 1) --VonCrown 17:58, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

As to usefullness.[edit]

Honestly as a spell its not much better then Aspir itself. Might have a bit more acc to it, and seems to drain a bit more mp at the top end(160ish?). But where it comes in handy is having another Mp absorbing style spell for those times when you can drain mp from mobs. I like it even though its not quite as good as one would expect its still worth it if you can afford it.

Regarding usefulness, don't forget you also have two seperate MP drain spells on two seperate timers - something the average BLM would kill for, even if the higher tier isn't a lot more powerful than the first. --Gojiras 05:09, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

It also only costs 5MP to cast as well, which is a neat little addition. --Feenicks 08:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Well, the majority of my concern had to do with the casting time, really, though I've heard what's on the main page is wrong- Could someone who has it fix that? Worst case scenario, I'm 3.2k xp from getting it now, and I'll test for myself. An 8-second cast time for barely an improvement would seem unacceptable to me if true... Did the person who reported that maybe have hasso/seigan on when they cast it? --VonCrown 03:14, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

What part of twice as many Aspir spells doesn't make you horny? My aspirs do like 200 right now, If this thing even gives me the same 200 I'd still love it, even if the cast time was 15 seconds. Novah1 16:15, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

Can someone put up a new picture, its missing BLM 83 on it. Yokhai 14:04, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Actual Calculations[edit]

Someone has done a lot of work to summarize the calculations for drain/aspir. http://irethesire.livejournal.com/2703.html is a summary and http://robonosto.blogspot.com/search/label/dark%20magic is the full research. I didn't do the work, just found it and passing along Velvetisis 14:32, December 5, 2011 (UTC)

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